I bleed Eley red.....

[Bill Calfee]

I bleed Eley red.....


CYA accuracy fool friends:


I bleed Eley red....Lapua never did anything for me throughout my entire career as a RFBR Schmidt, Eley and I worked together very successfully.


I've always considered the natural based wax that Eley uses to be superior to the grease that Lapua uses....


I've now changed my mind........


The Lapua grease is far superior..........................................


You ask why?


Starting with a clean bore and chamber:


With the Eley natural based wax the amount of wax changes drastically the more rounds you fire.....and every few rounds the buildup gets so large that the system finally gets flushed, then you start the buildup all over.....

So from a clean bore/chamber to say 75 rounds, you have a constantly changing amount of wax that the bullet deals with...


On the other hand, the Lapua grease changes its buildup rate very little from a clean chamber/bore up to 75 rounds, or so....


The Lapua grease is far superior to the Eley natural based wax........


And this from someone who bleeds Eley red........but it is what it is.....


I've been suspicious of this for a long time.....but my Eley bias wouldn't let me see the light, I guess.....

Then a couple nights ago I was lying in bed thinking and it dawned on me....

I've never been able to use Eley rounds for slugging when I do my bore evaluation on a new blank....I've always used SK or Lapua slugs.....which use grease.....

You do not get the "feel" needed with Eley rounds that you get with SK or Lapua rounds.

So how could I expect Eley to shoot better?


Your LBK and psitol fool friend, Bill Calfee

 

[Bill Calfee]

It's hell to get old and find out you've been wrong...

It's hell to get old and find out you've been wrong...


CYA accuracy fool friends:


It's hell to get old and find out you've been wrong...


The natural based wax Eley uses is not as good as the grease Lapua uses.

And unless Eley goes to grease like Lapua, Lapua will continue to dominate RFBR shooting....


I'm heartbroken because I bleed Eley RED....................


Ain't it hell to have to admit you are wrong.......


BC

 

[Timo]

I used hundreds of hours try to find better waxes to 22 LR bullets. Made combinations from tallow,beeswax,ski waxes,different canola oils,high pressure & heat wearing products.Near everything what I find to my hands.

Not tested the accuracy,but only V3 speed constant to chrono.

Found few pretty good ones but not excellent ones in the beginning.

Lastly I thought I got breakthrough and find combination what was better than factory wax/grease when looking V3 speed constant.Big disappoinment was coming when I shooted with this wax 2 weeks or so later.It was not as good anymore.I used "natural materials" and something chemical happened when combination stayed for awhile.

Sounds waste of time,but this teached me many things about this ammo from hell.And my nowadays adventures are "sequel" from those thoughts.

One thing was how much burnless powder you get to barrel with different waxes etc.

My english is too bad/slow to explain what I am working/playing with now but in this link are few "tips" around it:

And when you read this "filter" CF/ RF apart. Both are fruits,but they are different like apples & oranges.

www.quora.com/Why-does-a-longer-bar...here-be-more-friction-slowing-the-bullet-down

BR, Timo

 

[Bill Calfee]

Admitting I'm wrong.....

It's hell to get old and find out you've been wrong...


CYA accuracy fool friends:


It's hell to get old and find out you've been wrong...


The natural based wax Eley uses is not as good as the grease Lapua uses.

And unless Eley goes to grease like Lapua, Lapua will continue to dominate RFBR shooting....


I'm heartbroken because I bleed Eley RED....................


Ain't it hell to have to admit you are wrong.......


BC

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Admitting I'm wrong.....


CYA accuracy fool friends:


One of the most difficult things for the human species to do is to admit they're wrong about something...


Your LBK and accuracy fool friend, Bill Calfee

 

[Timo]

Bill! My first boss said me many times: "Timo, you must make hundresds of decisions every day.And in the evening when you are in the bed,put your finger crossed and pray that over 50 % goes right.

He was pressing young man to trial and error.And learn from errors.

You have done over 30 years work mostly with high quality RF.s and I am pretty sure that You have done plenty of trials and also errors,but find then many,many,many things to get "better mousetrap".

Many times learning out of old is much more difficult than learning new to us.

Most of consultants I have met has been worthless,but one sentence I remember: "It is not shame if you change your opinion,lets call it learning & development"

And I am thinking/smiling sometimes that if you have "bad enemy", lets try to him/her begin to study 22 LR ammo.Very easy way to get him/her to come grazy. Ammo from hell.

Ps.Odd lot picture and "home work" picture on the table.

BR, Timo