Patterson SPEC P-8....

[Bill Calfee]

Patterson SPEC P-8....


There's a gentleman in California that's going to be tickled pink.......oh my..


Patterson SPEC P-8....




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My LORD, you have to see this thing in person....pictures do not do it justice...


J-Pat, you've outdone yourself........my LORD....


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee

 

[Tony K Harper]

Patterson SPEC P-8....


There's a gentleman in California that's going to be tickled pink.......oh my..


Patterson SPEC P-8....


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My LORD, you have to see this thing in person....pictures do not do it justice...


J-Pat, you've outdone yourself........my LORD....


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee

Wow! That paint job is outstanding and that red oh that red.

That rifle will stand out in any crowd.

Good job Jeff.

TKH

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend TDX

Friend TDX


Friend TDX:


Please TDX, I beseech you to use your influence with DiOrio to make sure he keeps producing V-3 actions like the one on that magnificent rifle you built for PedroS.... (that uses a 6:00 cocking ramp and teat only)


That V-3 rifle is ARA 2400 plus capable...


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee



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[Tony K Harper]

Friend TDX


Friend TDX:


Please TDX, I beseech you to use your influence with DiOrio to make sure he keeps producing V-3 actions like the one on that magnificent rifle you built for PedroS.... (that uses a 6:00 cocking ramp and teat only)


That V-3 rifle is ARA 2400 plus capable...


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee



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Bill,

I have been testing this new Turbo V3 Mod. Although it is early days, I haven't seen a downside.

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

If there is a downside, I'm sure Anthony will go back to the last generation.

I'm just happy Anthony is willing to test the boundaries to look for improvements.

TKH

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend TDX

Bill,

I have been testing this new Turbo V3 Mod. Although it is early days, I haven't seen a downside.

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

If there is a downside, I'm sure Anthony will go back to the last generation.

I'm just happy Anthony is willing to test the boundaries to look for improvements.

TKH

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Friend TDX: I heard you and JUNIOR kicked out the highest X count, of any gun, at the McKeesport 3-Gun yesterday, a 250 x 19....

And the little thing's been doing it for 12 years now....BC

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[Tony K Harper]

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Friend TDX: I heard you and JUNIOR kicked out the highest X count, of any gun, at the McKeesport 3-Gun yesterday, a 250 x 19....

And the little thing's been doing it for 12 years now....BC

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TD Junior is still kicking.

Three years ago, I made up a replacement barrel for Jr.

When I tested the new barrel, I thought it was as good or better than the original barrel.

I took off the new barrel to do a final polish. Before I got it done, I had a 3 -gun match coming up, so I re installed the original.

JR just killed it at that match and has kept doing it ever since. I was prepared to put on the new barrel last week before this match but thought no I'll wait until after our monthly match. Three years later my new barrel still sits here collecting dust.

I'm not complaining. Shooting any good sporter is a thrill. Shooting one like JR is very special.

TKH

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend TDX......

TD Junior is still kicking.

Three years ago, I made up a replacement barrel for Jr.

When I tested the new barrel, I thought it was as good or better than the original barrel.

I took off the new barrel to do a final polish. Before I got it done, I had a 3 -gun match coming up, so I re installed the original.

JR just killed it at that match and has kept doing it ever since. I was prepared to put on the new barrel last week before this match but thought no I'll wait until after our monthly match. Three years later my new barrel still sits here collecting dust.

I'm not complaining. Shooting any good sporter is a thrill. Shooting one like JR is very special.

TKH

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Friend TDX:


You and Junior have demonstrated to the world "exactly" how a "muzzle device" works.


Here's two pictures..




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Tony, after folks have a chance to study these two pictures I'll come back and explain in detail why I posted them...



Your LBK and pistol fool friend, BC


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[Bill Calfee]

TD JUNIOR.......

TD JUNIOR.......


CYA accuracy fool friends:


TD JUNIOR is one of the most accurate RFBR guns in the world...........


I didn't say one of the most accurate in the world of sporters...I'm talking about all guns, world wide...


And Junior is 12 years old and still killing it....


If Tony were to mount a big scope on Junior and shoot him in ARA/PSL, he'd win more than he loses....



So this begs some extremely important questions about RFBR equipment........


I'll start asking them shortly...


TDX, feel free to comment anytime you wish....



Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee








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[Bill Calfee]

Like I said.....

Like I said.....


Seekers of rimfire accuracy advancement:


Like I said, if Tony put a big scope on Junior and competed in ARA/PSL, he'd win more than he'd lose........even keeping Junior in its sporter stock.


Junior is one of the ten most accurate RFBR guns in the world.....


So begs some questions about equipment...


First question:


How has Junior won multiple National Championships and set world records for over 12 years now, using no telling how many different lots of ammo, and being shot in all kinds of shooting conditions indoors and out.......


WITH A NON-ADJUSTABLE MUZZLE DEVICE?


More questions shortly....and they're going to be most interesting for our friends who believe in ornaments, multiple sweet spots, tuner twisting during a match, tuner twisting for different lots of ammo and especially for those who believe in that ridiculous positive compensation nonsense.





BC



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[Bill Calfee]

Ornaments....

Ornaments....


Seekers of rimfire accuracy advancement:


Ornaments....


How did Junior win all those National Championships and set all those world records these past 12 years without any ornaments either wrapped around the barrel or hanging off the muzzle?




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BC





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[404tbang]

Ornaments....


Seekers of rimfire accuracy advancement:


Ornaments....


How did Junior win all those National Championships and set all those world records these past 12 years without any ornaments either wrapped around the barrel or hanging off the muzzle?


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Howdy Bill,

......not to mention, how was it done with that barrel only having something like 120 inch pounds of torque.....and not coming loose.....

Take care,

Greg

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend 404tbang:

Howdy Bill,

......not to mention, how was it done with that barrel only having something like 120 inch pounds of torque.....and not coming loose.....

Take care,

Greg

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Friend 404tbang:

I'm not sure it had even 120 inch pounds.....


Greg, ornaments.....





I look at this picture above and simply shake my head....


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee







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[404tbang]

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Friend 404tbang:

I'm not sure it had even 120 inch pounds.....


Greg, ornaments.....


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I look at this picture above and simply shake my head....


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee







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Howdy Bill,

The ornaments are either necessary or they are not.

The fact that Junior shoots like that and has won *SO MUCH* proves the ornaments are unnecessary.

The fact that the muzzle device is part of the barrel itself further solidifies that.

Man alive, that rifle has to be a joy to shoot!

Take care,

Greg

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend 404tbang:

Howdy Bill,

The ornaments are either necessary or they are not.

The fact that Junior shoots like that and has won *SO MUCH* proves the ornaments are unnecessary.

The fact that the muzzle device is part of the barrel itself further solidifies that.

Man alive, that rifle has to be a joy to shoot!

Take care,

Greg

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Friend 404tbang:


Ornaments are just that, ornamentation.......they have absolutely no ability to increase rimfire accuracy....I mean none...


Greg, CYA member PedroS is outlining his tenor in RFBR on the Wilbur Harris web site......excellent read by the way...


Friend PedroS tells it like it is about "ornaments"....which he tried and does not use any longer...


When PedroS kicked out that mind blowing 66X performance, there were no "ornaments" on that amazing Harper V-3/Muller rifle...





BC


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[Bill Calfee]

Friend 404tbang

Friend 404tbang


Friend 404tbang:


Greg, don't forget to remind me to give you that 37 Remington barrel when you come up....now don't forget...OK.



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By the way, for newbies we've got to discuss the nonsense that a MD has multiple sweet spots.....some of the self appointed Internet tuning experts are promoting that ridiculous idea.....

Here's an example of what newbies face from another web site:


It's not terribly weight critical. I've seen 3 oz tuners and 3lb tuners tune rifles. There is some benefit to having some mass there, as it lowers frequency of vibration and it shows tune more clearly but they basically all can tune a rifle. I don't agree with a setting range that presumes there is a single magical sweet spot on a given bbl contour etc for several reasons. Tuners work in very small increments and there are many sweet spots because they alter phase time rather than frequency. Bottom line, get a tuner you're comfortable with and it'll very likely work well for you. But test in tiny increments. I'd be very happy to discuss what I've found in testing, both in rf, cf, in competition and doing vibration analysis. They're much easier to use than some tend to believe if used methodically. There's a lot of bad info and you have to sift through it thoroughly. IME, the most common mistake is moving them too far at a time, skipping over sweet spots until you randomly hit one of the many. PM me and I'll give you my phone number. We can discuss it in detail and you can decide what you want to do from there.


A MD has only one "sweet spot"......I mean, how do people come up with such a ridiculous notion that a MD has multiple sweet spots?


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee


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[404tbang]

Friend 404tbang


Friend 404tbang:


Greg, don't forget to remind me to give you that 37 Remington barrel when you come up....now don't forget...OK.


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By the way, for newbies we've got to discuss the nonsense that a MD has multiple sweet spots.....some of the self appointed Internet tuning experts are promoting that ridiculous idea.....

Here's an example of what newbies face from another web site:


It's not terribly weight critical. I've seen 3 oz tuners and 3lb tuners tune rifles. There is some benefit to having some mass there, as it lowers frequency of vibration and it shows tune more clearly but they basically all can tune a rifle. I don't agree with a setting range that presumes there is a single magical sweet spot on a given bbl contour etc for several reasons. Tuners work in very small increments and there are many sweet spots because they alter phase time rather than frequency. Bottom line, get a tuner you're comfortable with and it'll very likely work well for you. But test in tiny increments. I'd be very happy to discuss what I've found in testing, both in rf, cf, in competition and doing vibration analysis. They're much easier to use than some tend to believe if used methodically. There's a lot of bad info and you have to sift through it thoroughly. IME, the most common mistake is moving them too far at a time, skipping over sweet spots until you randomly hit one of the many. PM me and I'll give you my phone number. We can discuss it in detail and you can decide what you want to do from there.


A MD has only one "sweet spot"......I mean, how do people come up with such a ridiculous notion that a MD has multiple sweet spots?


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee


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Howdy Bill,

Thanks! That's very kind, and very generous of you! I'm more than a little curious how the Parker liner shoots, I've read nothing but good things about them.

I may bring that project 37 action with me when I come, I have a couple of questions about it. I like learning.

What I really want to learn about is that little sleeved Suhl and those pistols!

Take care,

Greg


P.S. Ain't it amazing how you've been able to put an MD on a barrel, and set it correctly, and have customers never move it and win all sorts of stuff for years?

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend 404tbang

Howdy Bill,

Thanks! That's very kind, and very generous of you! I'm more than a little curious how the Parker liner shoots, I've read nothing but good things about them.

I may bring that project 37 action with me when I come, I have a couple of questions about it. I like learning.

What I really want to learn about is that little sleeved Suhl and those pistols!

Take care,

Greg


P.S. Ain't it amazing how you've been able to put an MD on a barrel, and set it correctly, and have customers never move it and win all sorts of stuff for years?

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Friend 404tbang:


That's correct, you set the MD one time then it's never moved again, providing you have a Class A contraption that's capable of having its muzzle stopped...


Greg, I feel sorry for newbies seeking advice on the Internet about MD's....


Here's a prime example of a self appointed MD expert giving totally misleading information.....from another web site:


It's not terribly weight critical. I've seen 3 oz tuners and 3lb tuners tune rifles. There is some benefit to having some mass there, as it lowers frequency of vibration and it shows tune more clearly but they basically all can tune a rifle. I don't agree with a setting range that presumes there is a single magical sweet spot on a given bbl contour etc for several reasons. Tuners work in very small increments and there are many sweet spots because they alter phase time rather than frequency. Bottom line, get a tuner you're comfortable with and it'll very likely work well for you. But test in tiny increments. I'd be very happy to discuss what I've found in testing, both in rf, cf, in competition and doing vibration analysis. They're much easier to use than some tend to believe if used methodically. There's a lot of bad info and you have to sift through it thoroughly. IME, the most common mistake is moving them too far at a time, skipping over sweet spots until you randomly hit one of the many. PM me and I'll give you my phone number. We can discuss it in detail and you can decide what you want to do from there.


I highlighted the most important comment from this self appointed MD expert.....


There is a lot of bad info on some of these web sites, starting with the completely misleading info by this self appointed MD expert.


Greg, I feel sorry for newbies....or anyone seeking sound advice about the proper use of a muzzle device.


Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee



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[Bill Collaros]

I wonder...

If the other end had something to do with it? Like many of the other original spec rifle owners Tony Harper can steer that thing like no other....

 

[Bill Calfee]

Friend Bill "Waltzing Matilda" Collaros

If the other end had something to do with it? Like many of the other original spec rifle owners Tony Harper can steer that thing like no other....

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Friend Bill "Waltzing Matilda" Collaros:


Ain't nobody close....





Your LBK and pistol fool friend, Bill Calfee



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[Bill Collaros]

Aussie toys

While we are talking Sporters, remember The Croc that u had a guiding hand in around 15 years ago, with Brett Wilson building it for me. Won the Western Sydney competition yesterday in 40kmh wind and highest x count. The big sister Waltzing Matilda is starting to bond with me claiming 4th and also highest x count in heavy rifle..