Aslap's barrels.....

Friend alsap

Bill,

I don't see anything like your pic on the left hand side of any of the lands. I did a quick mod on your drawing and what I see is this looking in at the nose of the bullet:



The right side of the land is angled up and away from the bottom of the land groove. But this angle does not run true down the length of the groove. It is more pronounced at the front of the driving band. At the rear of the groove, things look pretty normal.

I sort of can't see how this can be. I drove the slug in 4". You would think that if there was a defect in the barrel somewhere, that this angled look would have gone all the way down the length of the land groove. Unless I somehow manged to stop the slug right at the place where this thing - whatever it is - is situated and I just caught the front of the slug with it. Seems unlikely but I'll drive one in 6" and back it out and see what gives.

It's probably some sort of optical illusion but it sure looks like a real thing.

Tony

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Friend aslap:


I'll go over the slugs again today.....


It would not be out of the question that I've got things backwards....


Bottom line: There is an issue.....


If the holiday were caused by something at, or on, the angle of the leade, most likely when the slug was pushed into the bore proper, the depth of the land cuts in the bullet and the reduced diameter of the bore would wash the holiday away.


Now, this from memory:


Seems like the slugs pushed completely through the bore exhibited this holiday, too....


Although don't 100% hold me to that..........



I'll review the slugs and post something later....


Your friend, BC


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PS:


I decided to take the easy barrel first.......which hasn't turned out to be very easy.....


The ratchet is yet to come......


Here's something for you to ponder before we start with the ratchet:



When one views the bullet from a live round that has been pushed into an "as reamed" chamber, not finished yet..


Or an "as bored" chamber, also....


The angle of the leade has a "signature" that is distinct for each style of rifling...



The ratchet's signature is most distinctive, and unique, since the driving side of the lands are vertical, while the following sides are angled..........


I guarantee J-PAT knows exactly what I'm talking about, since we've spent a bunch of time analyzing the different rifling pattern signatures...


Anyway, keep this in mind when we start discussing your ratchet.....bc
 
Friend alsap

Bill,

Have you had any time to take a look at the slugs any further?

Tony


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Friend aslap:


I apologize for not getting back to you.........


I've been fooling with a Muller 4-MI that I always thought was made out of stainless steel, but now I'm beginning to think it might be made of gold.....


And by the way, it ain't got one of my "perfect" chambers in it........which kinda blows my mind.....


And another thing........


When I fit it to my 10-X action, with the earlier .145" longer barrel tenon, to get the headspace at .043" and have the old extractor slots line up caused me to increase the leade engraving to .155".....


Lapua chambering experts tell us that Lapua won't shoot with that much engraving.....

All I can say is......the Lapua Big Dog gave me don't know that.....




Anyway, I will go over the Lilja slugs again today.......if the world don't end.....


Your friend, BC


PS
.......then we'll do the ratchet......which is much more interesting in the leade area....



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PS #2


Friend alsap, I reviewed the Lilja slugs again....


I do not now see the holiday continuing up the bore, which I believe I stated it did, before.


So whatever this holiday is, seems to be contained at the leade only.


These pictures aren't good....


Picture 1


Three of the leade marks look clean, like this one.

DSC01274.jpg


Picture 2


This is a picture of the leade mark with the holiday.


If you look closely, arrow, you can see the additional width this holiday makes the leade mark in the slug...


If you look real closely, you can see that this additional width narrows the depth of the shoulder of the front driving band, although not as deep as the true land cut does.


DSC01281.jpg


What is causing this?



Don't know.....


Maybe a spec of CL ring that wasn't removed by your cleaning before you ran these tests?

If you've thoroughly cleaned the leade since you ran these tests, then don't see this holiday when you insert a live round, then maybe it was some sort of CL build-up....?


Your friend, BC
 
Sorry it took me so long!

Bill,

Sorry. I missed your last response.

I didn’t see anything like that when I ran the last slug. I suppose it could have been a cleaning thing.

Tony
 
Friend aslap

Bill,

Sorry. I missed your last response.

I didn’t see anything like that when I ran the last slug. I suppose it could have been a cleaning thing.

Tony

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Friend aslap:


I agree....


Shortly we'll get back to your ratchet......


Your friend, BC

 
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